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Re: Man In The Mirror on VH1
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:34 pm
by bingolong
Some observations from what i saw:
1. Those brothers are stingy-Jackie and Tito know they could have helped Micheal find some "groupie love"!!
2. Let that boy out the studio-Joseph should have let that boy play in the park with other kids alot more than he did.Then maybe he wouldn't be climbing trees and and having sleepovers at 44!!which leads me to my next observation..........
3.He has guest rooms-and Mike even stated that he has these rooms set up but the kids always want to sleep with him.This could be a set-up by the parents of those kids for money!!
I don't know I had a longer rant and lost it but these are a few things I have noticed that could've prevented his current situation

Re: Man In The Mirror on VH1
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 11:44 pm
by dougdigitalpro
bingolong,
Thanks for the heads up on the interview with Bashir too.
Re: Man In The Mirror on VH1
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:21 am
by mojones
bingolong,
You are as erudite as ever. But I still believe Michael is gay. That doesnt' make him a pedophile of course. Plenty of decent gay people. Most of the writers during the Harlem Renaissance were gay. James Baldwin was gay. Gay people are people and thus, entitled to the same rights as anybody else. So I'm not knocking anyone who practice an alternative lifestyles. I'm just saying the evidence seems to suggest Michael is too. Couple a latent homosexuality with an oppressive upbringing and pedophiia is probably what you get.
Much has been made of his Jehovah Witness theology and how it colored his opinion of women. But remember, the JW's have an even worse view of homosexuality. I even recall reading an Time magazine interview with MJ where he stressed homosexuality was an abomination. Because we all watched Michael grow up. It's difficult to accept that he could be both gay and possibly a pedophile. But put anyone else in his predicament and we would want him decapitated! In the words of Chris Rock, finding Michael with another child is like finding O.J. with another dead white woman. Mike could very well be the victim of some massive set-up. But if so, he's an accomplice.
Re: Man In The Mirror on VH1
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:55 am
by jermainebailey
dougdigitalpro,
SHOCKED BRO!
As a fellow filmmaker, cant believe you actually dig this film! As a total Michael Jackson fan, I thought this movie was TRASH! Very badly done! It was more about the events that telling the story. The dialouge was terrible, cinematography was awful and I'm not gonna even touch the music..(how can u have a MJ film with none of his music??!!! Thats like doing and Elvis or Beatles flick without their music!) Flex looked more like a gay Michael Jackson..To me the film felt like I was watching a overlong SNL skit. The only think I liked was the brother that played Joe Jackson and Flex wigs. His jerry-curl was dead on! To be honest I think THE JACKSONS: American Dream was a better film(and I thought I would never say this cause that film wasnt all that either).
Re: Man In The Mirror on VH1
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:58 am
by jermainebailey
bingolong,
I agree...My girlfriend yesterday hip me to the fact that this might me a set up..But what makes me pissed is the fact that Mike puts himself in these situations..You have your own white kids now...leave the other little bastards alone!!!
Re: Man In The Mirror on VH1
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:37 am
by bingolong
mojones,
That was something I mentioned in my original post before it was wiped out.....
I have a theory on the sexual preference thing too:
dougdigital pointed out the fact that Mike could be asexual.Now I have heard of plants and microorganisms that are this way but not too many (if at all) humans.But of course if a human is like that it would be Micheal.I believe that humans are built to have sexual urges.And if you repress that shit long enough you are going to end up having urges towards anything(including children)that walks (much like they do in jail.)
I hope and pray that Mike didn't do anything with the kids b/c I honestly believe the boy wants to be a kid again myself.Black or White,Gay or Straight,I don't know but I know one thing;I betcha Elizabeth Taylor knows the truth!!!
jermainebailey,
Yeah he has his own kids now and should have learned from the first incident but maybe the urges are to strong (may the urges be sexual or just to be a kid again).....
Disclaimer: I have been trying to look at this objectively from all the angles but really I don't know what the hell I am talking about but figured I'd share anyway

Re: Man In The Mirror on VH1
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:50 pm
by sweetv
bingolong,
all i can say about this topic is that this is a very confused man who obviously does not like himself in that he is continuously getting plastic surgery done on himself to totally alter who is and try to become someone far from the real him. I honestly feel sorry for him in that he really does not know himself all he knows is this person that his father molded him into and made him what he wanted him to be. so he thinks with a child like mind in that he is stuck there waiting for everyone to tell him what to do. seeming as if he doesnt know the difference from right or wrong.